Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 395 Location: Los Angeles, CA
My latest DV Rebel movie!
Hi gang!
Just thought I'd post the link to my latest short, which I made for an istockphoto.com contest (to win a sweet dv rebel camera!!)
It's the first short I've made beginning to end since reading the Guide, and all you have to do is compare it to my last short to see the difference!! This is what I was color correcting in that shot I posted in the "onlining" section of the forum.
Stu, can't thank you enough for writing the guide!
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 4424 Location: Hollywood, CA
So hype, what would you say it is that you learned that made the biggest difference between the first and second shorts?
(Very good, BTW. I enjoyed "A Thousand Words".)
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:36 pm
Artflame Noir
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 71
Hype is awesome, he's not only very talented (as shown) but also one of the most generous people I know... always willing to help and invest his time to help rebels with whatever filming problem they might come across.
I really hope you win this one Hype.
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Tue May 01, 2007 1:59 am
srproductions
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 174 Location: Texas
Hey Sean!
That was amazing! You are a true DV Rebel, and a talented one at that. Could you give us a run-down on the equipment you used? Thanks!
Tue May 01, 2007 10:52 am
srproductions
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 174 Location: Texas
BTW bro, is there anywhere that we can download a full rez vid? Like a quicktime file? Thx!
Tue May 01, 2007 11:14 am
hype
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 395 Location: Los Angeles, CA
wow, guys, thanks for the nice words!
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what would you say it is that you learned that made the biggest difference between the first and second shorts
well, the 2 main things both involved color correction. You'll notice in the Dungeons & Dragons short, the actress is blown out alot, the whites are just horrendous on her face in direct sun. I wasn't paying too much attention on shooting day, and REALLY wasn't paying that much attention on color correcting day.
The Guide showed me how to retrieve data in the blown out spots, or preserve what was already there all the way through onlining. You'll notice there's nowhere in "Thousand Words" where she is blown out. That was great info to have.
Also, the thumbnail viewer was amazing to be able to use. I used to pick a shot I wanted to match, snapshot it, then slide all around flicking back and forth, adjusting, flicking some more... time consuming, and wasted alot of effort moving around the timeline snapshotting different reference frames. Now, all that is behind me. thumbnail viewer rocked!
Also, in the missile shot, I replaced the sky. Before reading the book, I don't know if I would've done that unless there was a specific sky I was looking for and didn't have. The actual plate I shot, the sky is blown out because I was exposed for the actresses face. After blown out highlights was brought to my attention so much in the book, I realized that just sticking a basic sky back there would help make it look more like it was exposed on film, not video. Sure enough, the difference is amazing!
If you want to see the raw edited footage, it's posted in that "making of" thread I gave a link to.
srproductions, the equipment I used was below even DV Rebel standards! hahahahaha.. (well, the camera anyway! but thats why I'm trying to win a better one!)
A sony TRV27 camera - no 24p, no real lens options (I did use a wide angle as well as whatevers on the thing), no shutter speed adjustment...
I used a Beachtek thing for allowing the sound to run directly into the camera. I used a Sennheiser shotgun mic I own, it was mounted on the camera. M66 or something like that.
I used a steadycam I made for about $15. There's a link to the page I found years ago to build one in my "making of" thread. The only modification I made was to take the swivel head off one of those super cheap tripods (mine came free with my camera) and stick it on top instead of the simple bolt the guy puts on his. I do own a fluid head tripod as well, but didn't use it on this short.
what else... hmmm... that might be it.
I also bought a 5 way reflector/flag/screen that fold up super small, the kind Stu recommends in the Guide, but actually didn't use it. We had snuck in to the location, and between the dead body and my steadycam get up, I was trying to not attract too much more attention. We were rushing to get out of there.
I used Adobe Production Bundle, naturally for all post, 3dsMax for 3d, and Magix Music Maker for all sound editing and sound fx making (still not 100% confident in my Audition abilities). Bought props off ebay ($4 for a non working camera that I dressed to look burned and broken, $49 for a HUGE box of resin bones).
Got almost her entire outfit at the local army surplus store for under $100.
And I can't post a higher res version until the contest is over. After that, it will be available on my website.
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So, how did you do the 24p look? Magic Bullet? Cuz it looked like 24p, as much as one can tell.
How long did it take to shoot?
Well, I hope you get the HVX! You deserve it!
Tue May 01, 2007 11:53 am
jwdenzel
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 291 Location: Northern California
Hype-- Very well done! Technical things asside, congrats on creating an interesting world without using dialogue. I confess I did not entirely "get" the story (what did the missiles mean? Did she know the people in the photos? Or was this a world where "memories are more valuable than money" and she was just trying to feel somebody else's dead memories?) Anyway, you created a strong mood for the picture and the visuals were great.
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 4424 Location: Hollywood, CA
I agree with all the comments. Not much else to add without repeating.
Now, granted, most of my respect comes from your rebellion. Doing so much with so little compared to the DVXs and HVXs being used elsewhere, but even that aside, I think you did a great job.
If you have the time, I think a few tutorials, or explanations, on your various steps and effects in their cooresponding section here would help alot of people. I understand how busy people can be, though.
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Tue May 01, 2007 1:19 pm
srproductions
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 174 Location: Texas
I agree with GageFX. Ya, give us more tuts!! I do like the ones over at www.simplycg.net.
Could you explain how you did the virtual/futuristic camera?
Tue May 01, 2007 4:47 pm
hype
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 395 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I confess I did not entirely "get" the story
then i failed for if the story doesn't come across, there's not really much point in watching.
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Or was this a world where "memories are more valuable than money" and she was just trying to feel somebody else's dead memories
Ah, ok, maybe it DID come across! thats the point, what you said.
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I think a few tutorials, or explanations, on your various steps and effects
hmmm... I'm not sure I did anything too hard.
If there's anything specific, let me know, I'll happily explain it. The effects in my D&D short were much trickier and more intensive. I purposely kept fx to a minimum on this one, to really concentrate on cramming as much story into 3 minutes as I could. But please ask if there's anything specific!
Also, I make video tutorials myself from time to time, occassionally in 3dsMax, most often in After Effects. They're not beginner tutorials, really, I don't explain every little thing I do in them, and I make no effort to make them "professional" quality video tutorials. But I make them for things I think are interesting, to try and show AE is perfectly capable of anything you would want it to do. For example, I made one yesterday showing Planar Tracking Roto in AE, since people seem to think Motor is the only tool that can do it. I post them all in the "video tutorials" section at SimplyCG.net, just look for all the ones made by me.
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Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 610 Location: Marin County
Excellent work. Good idea, well executed. I liked the touch at the end where she returns the signed photo of the girlfriend/wife/lover to the corpse. My only criticism is that I think you could have tightened it up a bit - made it a bit shorter. I think the going through the wallet bit goes on a little too long. And there are a few other places as well. But that's a minor observation.
Work to be proud of, and an inspiration as well.
Arthur
Tue May 01, 2007 5:53 pm
hype
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 395 Location: Los Angeles, CA
Here's some screenshots of the first time she uses the futuristic camera. Does it make sense? If not, just ask.
And one of the dead body, cuz its neat.
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thumbnail viewer rocked!
for if the story doesn't come across, there's not really much point in watching.
