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cybercrypt13



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I'm a little confused. Are you guys saying the same guy that did the two shorts did that trailer? Because they are so not the same technically. I also don't see how you'd get that many people to act and setup to do a short film... I guess I should read the other thread, just don't have time. But I would have to say that I'd agree it would be hard to pull off that trailer in your spare time. I've seen some pretty good shorts but none that have that kind of quality in them.

Would enjoy watching a few though... Smile

Definitely was well done. If he really did do it on his own with that camera he did an awesome job.

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Gage



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The guy who "made the trailer on his own in his spare time" (which I believe) was the camera operator on those other shorts.

There really isnt much to read in the the thread over there aside from a lot of bickering.

I think the trailer looks great, but there just isnt anything there that most of us couldnt do over a summer. I just watched it again. There is never more than 4 actors in a scene at once. Probably 90% of the shots are 1 or 2 people. Occasionally 3. I would go so far as to say that this could be shot by one person, no crew, just camera op/director and talent, in 7 shooting days or less. That is not to diminish at all from what he achieved. I think it's great. Just not that hard. Talent and getting out and doing it is all that is needed.

7 days. One person. I think it's more than possible. Over the whole summer would be no problem.
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Clinco



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The METH trailer is excellent -- editing, acting, music. The shots aren't that difficult. I didn't bother with the thread, but why anyone would sneer at this is beyond me.


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cybercrypt13



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Yeah, I'm not saying you can't, but honestly. Every scene has perfect lighting, the actors are very good, not just someone he picked off the street, the dialog, the sound. Don't get me wrong, its entirely possible, but I've never seen anything like it. I know you all could probably do it, but I've not seen it. The pictures are all perfect with sound to match. Compared to the other footage that someone here said he did, I just don't see where the total jump in technique came from. But again, it is impressive...

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Gage



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Well.... (and here I go tearing something apart that I think is great) the lighting isnt all that perfect. If you notice, most of it is available light coming in through windows. He mentions in the DVXU thread that he just has one small Lowell kit with just a couple lights. And he uses them well. I dont mean to say that he didnt light well. Again, I think he did a brilliant job, but the beginning office scene is way blown out. I've spent a bit of time studying this and the lighting isnt all that complicated. Most is just available light. He does do a great job of finding good light and using what is available.

As for the other shorts he shot, I see what you are saying. Part of me wishes "TempBot" was shot better. But the shooting style he used for Terminus and TempBot fit the mood of the pieces perfectly. Just like his camerawork here. He is a talented guy, and I think those talents show both in this trailer and in the "worse" camerawork in the shorts.

And please dont think I'm arguing with you. I'm just discussing. And you bringing stuff up like this forces me to watch them again and learn more. Thank you for that.
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cybercrypt13



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Gage, not at all, and honestly I've backed away from my position a bit since seeing your short "Boba Death 2". Awesome work there. I still don't get how well you skate around in those flying scenes. Very awesome...

I'm curious, what type of camera do you use? Sorry if its a stupid question, I'm new around here so not up on who everyone is or what they shoot with. Have enjoyed poking around at everyones work.

Thanks,

glenn

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Gage



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I used to shoot with a DVX100B. I am currently equipment deprived as I will be renting higher level gear for my next project. Thank you for the compliments. Do you have any projects or samples you could throw up for us to see?
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cybercrypt13



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Well, I'm a newbee. I just got a Canon XL2 that I'm learning to use. I've been into photography for years but just getting into Video stuff. I've got some friends that are musicians and I threw together a few clips for one of them to a song he has. Its nothing great as I'm still learning how to setup my camera but would love to get the opinions of some of you to help speed me a long.

I guess I'll post it in another thread since I don't want to hijack this one. I'll come back and post where I put it in a few minutes...

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cybercrypt13



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Gage, I posted it under Newbee's first shots in this section. If you get a chance, would love to hear your opinion so I can work towards improving...

http://rebelsguide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1035

Thanks for taking the time to look,

glenn

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Gage



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Done and done. Wink
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