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http://www.yuco.com

This guy does title sequences for mainstream broadcast and film.

Wonderful stuff.

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On a similar note if you go to Stage 6 and search title design there are some people who have uploaded lots of movie title sequences, something I find a fascinating artform in itself. You'll need divx to view them but, hey, divx is better than youtube.

My favorite title sequence for a long while is for Sympathy for Lady Vengeance

I just think its beautiful (film is great as well, though I'd suggest seeing Oldboy first - astonishing).

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Excellent! Thanks for sharing these links, guys. Here's one more - mainly spanish films...

http://www.titulosdecredito.org

a guy i know used to work for him. just heard this guy interviewed on digital production buzz.....awful.....every third work was "ya know"....seriously....listen to it....its unreal.

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Cool links.

This brings up a question. Over the past two years of production, various awesome original ideas/scenes/segments/dialogue/songs that we had in our film unfolded on the big screen as we went to the cinema. How would you guys deal with that? Rewrite so it doesnt look like stealing, even if you didnt?

I ask this because yet another has presented itself. My idea for a title sequence was apparently used, almost exactly as I envisioned mine, in Bridge to Terabithia.

Sorry for the OT question, but searching through your links landed me on another disappointment.

I dont like someone saying I've "stolen" or "copied" something, but is it at least a compliment to be compared to something much bigger?

Very cool links! Thanks for posting them.

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Gage, that sure is a problem. I don't know exactly what to do, but my first thought is to change mine, some, so it separates itself from the other ones. Other than that, I don't know....

Juan

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I agree with Kab. But then again, I see / hear the same stuff over and over - The opening music theme in Bourne Supremacy is the same as in MIB. I heard it and I was all WTH...

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	a guy i know used to work for him. just heard this guy interviewed on digital production buzz.....awful.....every third work was "ya know"....seriously....listen to it....its unreal.

When you do work at that level, you can babble all you like Smile

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Gage, be happy that you have ideas that are good enough to crop up in some of the top films. At the ideas level, the great thing is we're on a level playing field with the megabudget productions Smile

There's no method of legal protection for ideas, or even visual styles - remember the Guinness ad with the guy jumping around in the 90s? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticipation_(Guinness) The creator of the original work sued the ad agency, but lost even though everyone accepted they'd plagiarised his original short.

You could try NonDisclosure Agreements - but many people refuse to sign them, and if someone breaches you're still stuffed.

Even if your whole script got stolen and great chunks used word-for-word you'd struggle to win a legal fight (and would probably get the "you'll never work in this town" label in the process).

And yes, if you've got something that's already been done well, I'd recommend tweak yours until it's different and better, or scrap it altogether.

So stay creative, keep your best ideas under wraps as long as you can, and remember that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

"Immature poets imitate. Mature poets steal."

-- T. S. Eliot

I wouldn't worry about it, unless it looks exactly the same AND has a similar storyline. I know I've seen similar title sequences, so I don't think anyone would accuse you of ripping off the idea.

Well, one thing that comes to mind is The Boondock Saints. In quite a few areas he was accused of ripping off Tarantino and Guy Ritchie, but in one case, his film was in the can before the compared film (but first released) was even begun, and in the other his was written and production begun before the other was released. Aside from the fact that he killed his own career, there were so many accusations of "copying/stealing" from those two other filmmakers that the film was somewhat tainted.

Everyone who has read my script or been brought on has signed an airtight, attorney drawn, non-internet download ND/CA. This means little in the grand scheme of things, particularly for people that dropped out 18 months ago. However I have taken the only possible steps I can to make sure nothing gets out. But that's not what I'm talking about. Not about others stealing my stuff, although that is a concern, but as for action films, aside from a generic gun fight or fist fight, you have to be real ingenius to come up with something to set it apart. Bourne has his improvised weapons, and so do we, but Supremacy and Ultimatum used similar, so ours are out and it's back to the drawing board.

Particular lines are similar, jokes, ways people die, torture. We've seen all sorts of these things, sometimes EXACTLY as we wrote them on the screen. I dont think anyone stole from ME, they just beat me to the screen with the same idea.

Writing and production of my film was inspired by two particular songs. Very unique. Well, this past summer I sat and watched big budget films that had those songs and they didnt even fit properly in their films like they fit PERFECTLY in mine. But now that they were heared in HUGE films, it will/would look like I heard them there and not had them in my "soundtrack folder" 2 years before those films came out.

It's just annoying.

Star Wars - based on a ton of asian and american films as well as "The hero has 1000 faces".
Indiana Jones - A direct rip off of Nyoka and the Tigermen.
Pulp Fiction - TONS of rip offs of 70 sploitation flicks.

And the list goes on...

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No, no! Those weren't rip-offs! Those were "inspirations!"

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Arthur

Or were they "loving re-creations?"

I get so confused.

Arthur