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ClintTorres



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So I guess that means I shot 1080i?

You'd figure having shot and released a short using this workflow I would have a better understanding of this. lol


You shot 1080p, it's just encased in a 1080i cocoon that you have to gently unwrap, or else you get a sort of 1080i.

As for the lack of understanding, many of us are your kindred spirits. I don't think the technology itself is responsible for the confusion, which makes it all the more maddening to see so little manufacturer support.

My working theory is that existing business models are failing to adjust fast enough to take advantage of technological developments. This leaves us with manufacturers who value market segmentation more than efficiency or customer satisfaction. The falsely imposed difficulties of using "advanced" features even become bass-ackwards selling points for converting users to the next higher line of products.
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Ayz



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ClintTorres wrote:
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So I guess that means I shot 1080i?

You'd figure having shot and released a short using this workflow I would have a better understanding of this. lol


You shot 1080p, it's just encased in a 1080i cocoon that you have to gently unwrap, or else you get a sort of 1080i.

As for the lack of understanding, many of us are your kindred spirits. I don't think the technology itself is responsible for the confusion, which makes it all the more maddening to see so little manufacturer support.

My working theory is that existing business models are failing to adjust fast enough to take advantage of technological developments. This leaves us with manufacturers who value market segmentation more than efficiency or customer satisfaction. The falsely imposed difficulties of using "advanced" features even become bass-ackwards selling points for converting users to the next higher line of products.


Okay, that's how i always understood it. Some of the questions i've gotten since the release threw me off I think. Started to think I was missing something. Wink

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ParallaxView



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This is an awesome short.
The acting and the sound quality is fantastic.
I really like your post processing on the video.

Great work. I cant wait to see more.

Rudy Ferguson

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Ayz



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ParallaxView wrote:
This is an awesome short.
The acting and the sound quality is fantastic.
I really like your post processing on the video.

Great work. I cant wait to see more.

Rudy Ferguson


Thanks a lot Rudy. Glad you enjoyed it.

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epnine



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what model wide angle was used? also, how did you find your actors?
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Ayz



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Just the standard canon attachment, can't remember model but its probably been mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

This has also been mentioned earlier -- but the actors were my younger brother and his best friend. Been shooting stuff together since we were kids.

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Boz



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Almost certainly the wide-angle lense used was the Canon WD-H43.




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Ryanrjack



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Yo Ayz,

A few questions........

What aperture did you shoot @ for White Red Panic?

You said you used your laptop for focusing, how did you do that? Through Vegas via fire wire?

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notoriousruz



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Hi Ayz,

it would be great to hear how you would work with actors in pre-pro and during the shoot of your next project.

What would you do differently to WRP?

'Specially if you are working with inexperienced/amateur actors.

How would you prep them, ideally, and how would you work with them on set, again, ideally?

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Ayz



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Sorry, missed these somehow:

Boz wrote:
Almost certainly the wide-angle lense used was the Canon WD-H43.




I think that's the one. I just tried to find mine to confirm, but it seems to have gotten misplaced in the move to our new apartment. From memory that looks correct though.

Ryanrjack wrote:
Yo Ayz,

A few questions........

What aperture did you shoot @ for White Red Panic?

You said you used your laptop for focusing, how did you do that? Through Vegas via fire wire?


I shot various settings outside, but in the warehouse location I always shot F2. Had to get as much light in as possible, but opening it up anymore would introduce the dreaded hv20 GAIN.

I tried to use the laptop for focusing, but ended up not looking at it more than once. there was a program that let you preview the hv20's feed with a 2 second delay. I'm sure someone remembers what its called on here. The more time that's passing, the more details i'm forgetting... It's bad. lol

notoriousruz wrote:
Hi Ayz,

it would be great to hear how you would work with actors in pre-pro and during the shoot of your next project.

What would you do differently to WRP?

'Specially if you are working with inexperienced/amateur actors.

How would you prep them, ideally, and how would you work with them on set, again, ideally?


I can't say specifically, because it all depends on the script and the scenes, but I do know that I've learned that talking about a part is more important than rehearsing the shit out of it. Don't try to nail anythiing on the day, but rather try and figure out the intent of the scene(s). Also I've learned to take myself out of it, and really put trust in the actors. They know I expect something good, but I don't need to hammer that home (which i used to). I can only help by talking about the dialogue/role as much as possible. If an actor is not asking questions, or not interested in talking about it -- then I know i'm in trouble.

Also if an actor is not working hard, then we'll just do A LOT of takes. I think Fincher said that nothing will make an actor snap out of it faster than having to do a ton of takes. That's 100% correct, because they know in the end i'll go as long as I need to to get what I want. On that note, you REALLY need to know what you want. The places where I'm unhappy with WRP, in the end have to do with me and not knowing 100% what I was after. So next time will mean even more preperation for myself.

As far as working on set -- I guess what I'm trying to say is, that if you put in the time before hand.. on set shouldn't be too difficult. If your actors trust you by the time you're shooting (and you them) you'll have sort of a short hand about the scenes. You'll know what you've been building towards, that your job will mostly be "course correction" or recalling the intent behind the scene. As well as ocassionally giving the actor a way to find an emotion or a moment. Acting is incredibly hard work, in the sense that its all about recalling an emotional reality at moments notice and then somehow expressing it honestly and instantly. Sometimes its just very hard to do that. Actors get lost -- and that's where the director steps in I think.

I don't know, in all honesty I'm still figuring all this out myself, so I feel a bit silly trying to explain it.

So DISCLAIMER TIME: These are just my observances of my experience with actors. All taken with a grain of salt please. Smile

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treyvollmer



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Ayz,

Are you surprised by how popular White Red Panic has become?

In other words were you expecting such a broad acceptance from everybody prior to releasing it?

Do you know what I'm saying?

Trey

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Ayz



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treyvollmer wrote:
Ayz,

Are you surprised by how popular White Red Panic has become?

In other words were you expecting such a broad acceptance from everybody prior to releasing it?

Do you know what I'm saying?

Trey


No, not like this. I had an idea that it would make a splash due to the hv20. When I looked at the best footage available at the time, I knew I could do something cooler (visually speaking). However, as a film I had no idea if people would dig it as much as they seem to have. I'm still getting emails and comments, and that's taken me a bit by surprise. The fact that others seem to be inspired to go out and shoot their own projects, that's like really fun for me.

But yeah, I wasn't expecting it to do THIS well. To me it was short to get back on the horse and learn a few things, so everything else has been bonus. Wink

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treyvollmer



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True.

Are you working on anything new?

Trey

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Ayz



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True.

Are you working on anything new?

Trey


Writing a feature at the moment and possibly another short. Just wanna make sure whatever I shoot next is something cool.

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Ayz



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Hey Guys

WHITE RED PANIC, has been entered into the online Babelgum film festival, which Spike Lee is a judge on.

Apparently its all about the popularity of the film, and how many viewers vote for it before it gets in front of the judges, so I thought I'd call some of you DV-rebels to arms, and see if you couldn't vote/rate for the film once a day. Whatever you can manage would be GREATLY appreciated by me.

WRP has yet to get some official recognition, since i don't have the budget to enter it into a million fests, so for it to get noticed at BabelGum could really help towards getting another project off the ground.

Much thanks either way. This forum's been a blast regardless Wink

Here's the link:

http://www.babelgum.com/html/clip.php?clipId=3004126

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