Keep on Shooting in the Free World...

i don't think you understand Ole Ben's "cliche". it is that exact mentality that allows this this stuff to happen little by little. and to suggest shooting a rent a cop is absurd, as they are just tools.

PS. We dont have pinkberry's here is chicago.

this article is quite good i especially like the last paragraph about russia.

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Man #2: "Elephant repellent."

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It's a good thing that those domestic wackos never blow anything up!

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	What a bunch of pansies this world is producing.

Says the guy who's scared of getting blown up in a terrorist attack. "Your risk of dying in a plausible terrorist attack is much lower than your risk of dying in a car accident, by walking across the street, by drowning, in a fire, by falling, or by being murdered."

I don't think its whining and complaing. The world isn't producing pussies. 100 years ago it was easier to take up arms to defend your rights. It was also more of a reality. In some parts of our planet right now it is a reality. The idea now is that you defend your self through knowledge. Not with a gun.

Just live a good life.

Governments should be afraid of its people.

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People have always been arrested for pointed their cameras at stuff they shouldn't... hence this little tale of woe in Greece
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Which is a story from 2001, which predates 9/11. So, like I said... nothing new in this.

I've filmed a lot on the streets in the UK and you generally you only get hassled if you're being an idiot. Oxford Circus is one of the busiest parts of Central London... I mean wall to wall pedestrians 24/7. It's also a major tube line, so lots and lots of people. All it would take is one guerilla film maker to set up a tripod on the pavement and you've got instant chaos.

People use camcorders on those streets all the time, without hassle... the police aren't interested in tourists. However, the second you look like any kind of film crew in Central London, then you're actually shooting illegally anyway...because you're supposed to apply for permission to shoot (which is not Big Brother, it's about not having film crews closing down central London whenever they feel like it).

I had exactly the same issues working in Mexico City... if you put a film crew on the streets, you're going to attract Police attention. 92.3% of the time it's just curiosity... but they're also making sure that you're not going to do anything stupid... like filming a bank robbery, with toy guns, without having let them know that it's happening (Having to deploy the armed response team to a film shoot, really, really pisses off the coppers)

As to the whole freedom/big brother debate... let them watch... I've got a lot of friends who are top notch graffitti artists and they'll go out of their way to throw up a piece right in front of a CCTV camera, opposite a Police Station. The truth is, you can't stop people by watching them, because they always evolve around the measures.

And, finally, international politics is complex and reducing the debate to "terroism is caused by religious indoctination" is a common view, but not even close to being completely true. I'd advise anyone interested in why the west has got a "terrorist" problem centred in the middle east, should read "The Great War for Civilisation" by Robert Fisk... one of the few journalists to have ever actually interviewed Osama Ben Ladin. I should warn you though... it's very heavy, depressing reading.

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	And, finally, international politics is complex and reducing the debate to "terroism is caused by religious indoctination" is a common view, but not even close to being completely true.

I concur- I don't think people really realise how much we (the west) have fucked the middle east up over the years... It's very much a similar situation to Africa, except in Africa we screwed them over so much, that they still havn't stopped fighting civil wars because of it... Sad times, sad times...

$1000, I thought in London, it was a similar situation to many of the cities in america? (The 'putting down sticks' thing) It's one of the reasons if I'm after a busy street shot(s), I go to Birmingham or Manchester (also quite a bit closer... and London irritates me.) I'm aware that it takes quite while to get permits to shoot there too (My lecturer had to wait around the region of 6 months for his to come through.)

But yar, does anyone know what exactly they can charge you for for shooting there if you don't have a permit? As I don't think the journalist in the film was entirely correct...

... crazy London bylaws *grumble grumble grumble*...

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No idea... I've only ever shot in London guerilla style... and I've always avoided the obvious trouble spots: tourist traps, the main shopping district round Picadilly Circus and of course the MI5 building on the Embankment! LOL

In my experience it's almost always better for micro-budget filmmakers to avoid locations that are permit happy... or shoots in those locations that will attract undue attention.

Next time I speak to my brother I'll ask him... he production managed a big shoot for Eminem in London a few years back... and permits in London are his specialist area.

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And, finally, international politics is complex and reducing the debate to "terroism is caused by religious indoctination" is a common view, but not even close to being completely true. I'd advise anyone interested in why the west has got a "terrorist" problem centred in the middle east, should read "The Great War for Civilisation" by Robert Fisk... one of the few journalists to have ever actually interviewed Osama Ben Ladin. I should warn you though... it's very heavy, depressing reading.

Also watch the brilliant documentary The Power of Nightmares. According to Netflix it's finally coming to DVD on June 24.